I have a question jpm why do you seem to be antagonistic towards me? Or have I misinterpreted it. You deleted my first post where I posted a website that explains the quadrant model and now you are trying to disagree with me right off the bat. It doesn’t even appear you looked into the theory or even have a desire to, you just immediately tried to be negative towards it and find disagree. It seems like you want to immediately dismiss it. Or maybe my interpretation is incorrect, am I correct? Here is an article on the blood types
It was subsequently found that the Czech serologist Jan Janský had independently pioneered the classification of human blood into four groups in 1907,[9] but Landsteiner’s independent discovery had been accepted by the scientific world while Janský remained then in relative obscurity. However, in 1921 an American medical commission acknowledged Janský’s classification. Jan Janský is nowadays credited with the first classification of blood into the four types (I, II, III, IV).
“Janský’s classification remains in use today. In Russia and states of the former USSR, blood types O, A, B, and AB are respectively designated I, II, III, and IV.[10] The designation A and B with reference to blood groups was proposed by Ludwik Hirszfeld.”
By the way I have a question. Is it ok if I post a website on the quadrant model so that I don’t have to post you that quote there, because that quote is on the website?
When moderators delete threads without warning, even when several people have participated in them, it’s generally a message meaning “You’re not allowed to discuss that here”. You have to read between the lines on this forum.
I am not antagonistic, just deleted the first post because it violated standards of posting, and then just pointed out that your statement about blood types and the nature of type O was incorrect. Terminology can be confusing, but if you tell someone your blood type is “III” no one will know what you are talking about, as it is not currently standard terminology. It is generally fine to post a website in the discussion of a post, so long as it is relevant to ideas expressed in the discussion, and the post is not just click bait. Carry on.
Yes, you can post a website in the comments. Here is the rule:
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You know how many times we actually end up discussing the intersection of science and faith (the purpose of this forum) when people show up claiming to have discovered the true theory of everything? Not very often. Usually such people are not all that informed about either science or faith. So that might explain something about your perceived reception. Feel free to prove all such stereotypes to be unjustified.
Here is the website Christy. I was pretty informed on both science and faith in my opinion. You’ll see if you look at the evidence I provide on the website and keep in mind there is a lot more I’ve seen than what I posted here. https://www.quadrantmodel.com
Material on the bloodtypes is on the first page of the summary page on quadrantmodel.com if you would like to look at that. I posted pictures as well. It might seem hard to believe but I think I provided a lot of evidence substantiating that reality has been organized around the quadrant pattern
If reality is organized around the quadrant, so what? How does this explain anything? What significance is there in this observation that will help me be a better person? How does it impact life?
I have been thinking along similar lines. As you know people think of humans as a combination of mind and body, although some people think of them as only mental and other as only physical. On the other hand I think that the spirit is not subsumed in the mind, but is a separate aspect of a human being, so we are body, mind, and spirit, or body, mind, and will.
This corresponds to people who are doers, thinkers, and feelers on that most people emphasize one aspect of their personality. The emotions are the most difficult to categorize. Our society deems to reflect the Greek bias against emotions, which however are very important and basic to our being. Feelers are often artists and as I have indicated spiritual leaders.
Your fourth dimension has been the biggest problem. Without getting into the blood thing which may or may not be a good model fro what you are saying, all humans are doers, thinkers, and feelers. We are all physical doing persons, mental thinking persons, and spiritual feeling persons. This Trinitarian model of what it means to be human is much better than the mind/body view, which satisfies no one. This is how God created humans (male and female) in God’s own Image through evolution.
Thanks or reading what I wrote. That thinker emoter doer dreamer model is just describing how I discovered the three plus one pattern in the first place. So that particular example is kind of rudimentary and may not even be that accurate. But the important stuff is the quadrant pattern. If you want to see what I mean check out quadrantmodel.com and there is thousands of examples. Ultimately there is actually 16 squares in the quadrant model. Thanks again for reading what I wrote.
Intelligent design is through the quadrant pattern which defines reality. Thinker emoter doer dreamer was just how I discovered it and one particular example of the quadrant pattern.
I think you are going to find that your 4-Quadrant theory is a bit of an “island” in the middle of a sea of science.
One of the oldest of naturalist world views is the 4 Humor Model, which was then used to devise 4 models of temperatments or personality. The Wiki article refers to this theory as a “proto-psychological theory”.
In its discussion, we read the following:
"The Greek physician Hippocrates (c. 460 – c. 370 BC) incorporated the four temperaments into his medical theories as part of the ancient medical concept of Humorism, that four bodily fluids affect human personality traits and behaviors. "
And most crucially: “Later discoveries in biochemistry have led modern medical science to reject the theory of the four temperaments, although some personality type systems of varying scientific acceptance continue to use four or more categories of a similar nature.”
Being an island is not the same as being untrue. But I think you would find greater interest in your “theory of everything” if made a little effort to explain how your theory has to do with Creation (either Evolutionary Creation or Special Creation).
You need some bridges off that island of yours… so there’s no point in investing excruciating levels of detail about your island … until you have proved to people there is a way off of it .
The next step I have to do is go back into the stuff that I posted online a long time ago and put it on the website. But you will see that I’m not stuck on “outmoded” models like the four temperaments. All of the modern models the big ones from physics to biology to everything is the quadrant model. Once I go back in what I posted a long time ago online hopefully soon and start putting that stuff on the website you’ll see
I should mention that I found the Enneagram, a 9 “bucket” model, provides more predictive power than Myers Briggs or any other tool that divides people into Quadrants.
My first question is do you just randomly click on wikipedia pages about Physics looking and doing a CTRL+F search for the number four? You reference a single paper on the Physics page three times, literally writing a short blurb about everytime some obscure paper from 2003 (cited two times ever) used the word ‘four.’ I have done the same, and see, hey, they write the Standard Model Langrangian in four parts: Higgs+Gauge+Gauge-Fermion+Yukawa. A nice writeup of what the actual Lagrangian of the Standard Model is and what it means can be seen here:
It seems as if there is quite a bit of astrology or other such quackery, with way too much emphasis given to the now obviously completely wrong idea of four elements of nature from ancient Greek though in a multiple places. That’s just one example, but I think I’m gonna have to post this image:
In general, it is very easy to repeatedly see such patterns that aren’t even there intentionally. As a matter of fact, we can easily miss everything that doesn’t fit neatly into such patterns. But grabbing one random article about particle physics and doing a search for the word ‘four’ and using that as an illustration of anything… please don’t.
Somebody said something about the enneagram yesterday but I could not reply it said. But the enneagram is also the quadrant pattern I explained that years ago but I’d have to find the articles I posted a long time ago. To people who ask what is the significance, your reality is the quadrant model that is the significance I don’t see how that could not be significant- everything about your existence is the quadrant pattern. To the physicist guy, hopefully soon I will go back in my timeline and get the good stuff I posted proving that all of physics is the quadrant pattern. It seriously is. That “obscure article” that you are talking about is an article about how Pauli dialogued with Jung and recognized the quaternity to be the foundation of physics. I actually did not even finish posting on that article but there are actually books written about it. Hopefully soon I will go back and post stuff I posted on that on my website in the sumary sections on physics and so on. I have been doing a lot of work so it has been hard for me to do all of these goals, but hopefully eventaully I can. Your reality is the quadrant reality- when I say that the quadrant is the Form of Being take this into consideration- Philosophers have called Being God.
My suggestion is before immediately dismissing it assuming that it is pseudoscience which I assure you it is not, actually look through the work I have done [content removed by moderator] I am sure that you will recognize that the quadrant model is the most significant theory ever discovered.
