Podcast: Dennis Venema & Michael Peterson | Intellect in the Service of Christ

Science doesn’t make value judgments and can’t tell us how we “ought” to behave. It can tell you how to achieve desired ends for either a group or an individual, but you have to bring those ends to the table. They don’t come from science.

Edited: and sorry, I thought this was a current discussion. It was near the top of the listing.

What do you say when you are told there are no moral facts?

I would ask what a moral fact is to whoever raises the issue and inquire how it is known to them that none exist.

Then possibly attempt common ground by asking them their thoughts on rape and child abuse. I would also ask if they thought it was okay if I believed in moral facts without being 100% certain I was correct in identifying them.

I encountered the statement in an intro to ethics and thought that it is factually wrong to treat other people like they don’t exist, when you believe they do.

It can be as basic as how you look at other people and listen to them.

Later, thanks to Piper, I could also see how it is wrong to love what is not ultimately good, as if it was.

Kind of neat how it goes back to the summary of the Law that Jesus gave.

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You should have kept on reading.