Particles from Deep or Local Space (sent by God) may have given Evolution a Nudge!

@Klax

Sources for what? Why don’t you ask more specific questions? I honestly don’t know what you are talking about right now.

What I’d like you to do is to tell me what I got factually wrong. Then I can give you my sources for what you think is factually wrong … or maybe when I go to my sources I will suddenly realize that you are correct, that I have some factually incorrect. But right now, I have no idea what you think I have factually incorrect.

I’ve done so from my first comment. I can’t understand that for you.

@Klax

Okay, let’s do this in SLOOOOOOOWWWWWW motion: You wrote this, saying that you identified my factual error in the last line of my first response:

Four days ago you wrote this to me. This is your FIRST response.

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Klax, I have used a BOLD FONT to highlight the last line of your first response:
Yes, the how is down to epistemology, but not all epistemologies are rationally equal.

So… please explain how this sentence specifies my factual error?

Good gosh, George. That’s the second response. Here’s the first:

From the article you linked in the OP:

But in the early stages of Earth’s evolution, a young, active sun emitting more cosmic rays and a different atmospheric makeup may have allowed these cosmic visitors to nudge primitive, fragile biomolecules towards their forms we see today.

He won’t see it Jay. As in will not.

@jay313,

Oyyyy. I thank you, Jay, for doing what seemed to be beyond @Klax’s capacity to accomplish!

@Klax,

This could have been a much easier part of the discussion if you had done any ONE of these things:

  1. Either QUOTE even just a few words from my post so that I can easily see, days later, that a posting from you is in response to something I said. I’ve mentioned this weakness of yours to you before!

  2. OR: you could have done what @jay313 so effortlessly accomplished. All he did was state the “fact” you were challenging.

Finally: Resolution of the Issue:
I know this isn’t going to matter one bit to you, but there is nothing crucial about WHICH sun Cosmic Rays originate from. Whether Cosmic Rays come from within or outside of our Solar System, the point being made is that God could easily be using natural lawful processes to aim the cosmic rays at genetic targets to be mutated.

Thanks again, @Jay313.

A special note to Klax:

While the article clearly refers to our local Sun as the source of Cosmic Rays, those familiar with Cosmic Rays are able to deduce that if they come from our Sun … they, for the most part, come from stars all over the cosmos! That’s why they are called COSMIC rays!

" Cosmic rays are high-energy protons and atomic nuclei which move through space at nearly the speed of light. They originate from:

[1] the Sun,
[2] from outside of the solar system,[1] and
[3] from distant galaxies.[2].

Typical grandstanding by Klax. Insisting that I made some grave error, but refusing to tell me what error - - an awkwardness that would have been avoided if Klax had used standard quoting procedure, or by simply re-stating the factual error, instead of endlessly re-stating that I had made some unspecified error… all for a point that is completely irrelevant to the point of the thread. I have re-titled the thread to reflect Cosmic Ray origination as either local OR distant.

The failure to read was entirely yours. Both the article and my immediate response.

@Klax,

You are a time sink.

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Why are you telling me about what I’ve known for over 50 years? You’re moving toward the article I’m glad to see. As for God paving the way for us with His scorched Earth policy, my cult inculcated such swivel eyed lunacy in the '70s, that He was cleansing the Earth of the effects of The Satanic Rebellion (he likes dragons…). So I should have more sympathy for such derangement.

@Klax

You shouldn’t have any sympathy for any of this. I’m not describing what I believe. I am describing what the average American Christian believes.

So take it up with THEM instead of quibbling over “nothings” with me.

Bless, you can’t bring yourself to remove the Deep can you! God sent the affective particles Local from the Sun not from Deep space as well. Although he does send them from both still, as He ‘sends’ the rain, He sends four times as much from the Sun: He sends them 80:20 Sun:Extra-solar now, but that wouldn’t have been enough to explain chirality, even with lower ozone levels (He hadn’t sent enough because He hadn’t sent the oxygen first which is biogenic). So He had to send orders of magnitude more four billion years ago to affect chirality, which He did by sending an 85% younger Sun.

Why did He send you to send what the average American Christian believes? Which is what? That God sent cosmic waves to chiralize biomolecules? I’m impressed at their level of education. What a Godsend!

@Klax

Try this: come up with a Biblical issue you think is only moderately important … and I’ll find something to quibble about in your thread until the day I die.

Sounds promising, yes?

Quibble away. Your OP is still doubly wrong.

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@Klax,

How can it be wrong if you admit yourself that Cosmic rays come from local AND deep space?

As for the quibble concept… when do I get MY turn to quibble/quibble/quibble on one of YOUR threads?

For the reasons already given. That you won’t understand. And you ignore the other wrong entirely of course.

@Klax

I have no idea what you are saying, or how you mean it.

Shall we keep it that way?

You’ll have no problem doing that, it’s first nature for you.

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