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What exactly is āmorningā and āeveningā when there isnāt even a sun in the sky yet? If he really wanted to be ātelling the truth to humansā ā¦ why didnāt he start with the Sun? Thatās the Cosmic Clock right thereā¦ for 3 days, there wasnāt even a clock to punchā¦
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God knows the time even without a clock!
For 3 days, he could have called anything he wanted to be a day.
The Romans divided each day and each night into 12 intervalsā¦ which depending on the season could have been 45 minutes per hour, or 90 minutes per hour.
So which hours was God to use? What season was it supposed to be ā¦ without a sun in place to give all time keeping meaning?
It doesnāt make any sense at allā¦
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Not correct. Light experiences zero travel time because it is traveling at the speed of light. Time dilation according to Einstein Theory of Special Relativity has been proven true in countless experiments. How does your creation model account for the observed red shift of the wavelength of light experiences due to the expansion of space over time?
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Yes, I have a deep understanding of GR and QM also well as the latest results from LIGOs, the Planck Satellite, and CERN particle accelerator.
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QM is more fundamental about how the universe works. And has major implications to discussions here.
Cosmology has clear implications here, as its methods determine the age of the universe. However, Iām not seeing any connections between these discussions and QM, could you elaborate?
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Lets talk about creation from nothing claim that must require God to do.
QM says not so.
Every instant in time, all over the universe, electrons in atoms spontaneously jump from one energy state to a lower energy state. In this process, photons are created out of nothing. Particles can also be created from nothing. This process happens all the time but can not be predicted with certainty. QM says that certainty about the future is not possible.
Further in this universe nothingness can not exist. Every cubic meter of space, particles (and anti-particles) pop into existence and then vanish in a finite amount of time.
There are a lot of great books on this: Sean Carrollās The Big Picture is very good and readable.
The standard YEC explanation for the creation ex nihilo is one of direct miraculous action on the part of God, which by definition breaks physical laws. So I donāt think invoking QM is a good fit here as it just gets hand-waved away.
A technical quibble, photon emission from an electron changing energy levels is not creation from nothing. Itās just energy transfer from one field to another. And as far as the quantum vacuum goes, arguing that itās not nothing because of the fluctuations (which are exceptionally short-lived ) veers more into semantics. Itās not technically nothing, but itās not really much of something either.
It is not just energy transfer from one field to another. We are talking about real particles created from nothing. The photon didnāt exist before it was created. And it was created where nothing existed before AND it was created from nothing.
It is not just semantics, it is real physics. It has been measured and analyzed. QM is the most tested theory ever.
There are many physicists who have begun to wonder if the Big Bang was just such a rare event as an eruption of energy from Quantum Space ā¦
Hi Patrick-
A quantum field is not nothing. As a theist, I would say that God created the quantum field out of which baryonic matter, dark matter, and dark energy arose.
Best,
Chris Falter
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I know what a quantum field is and it is certainly not nothing. [quote=āChris_Falter, post:122, topic:35106ā]
As a theist, I would say that God created the quantum field out of which baryonic matter, dark matter, and dark energy arose.
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As a theist you can say just anything but as a physicist you have to show both theoretically (mathematically) and experimentally with measurements how quantum fields arose and how the fields interact with matter, dark matter and dark energy. There has been a lot of progress in this area in the past few years. The FLWR model of cosmoslogy is pretty much accepted as how the universe came to be 13.8 billion years ago and how it has expanded in space and time since them. Most of the parameters of this model have been measured to less than 1% accuracy.