New genetic research allegedly time periods for YEC

[beaglelady]

@cewoldt

There is no data that is contrary to evolution.

Nothing existing, true. But fossil rabbits in the Precambrian would be contrary to evolution.

[T_aquaticus]

@Van_Dreams

The term evolution is quite broad which I think causes people to talk past one another without realizing it. In a sense, evolution is unquestionable fact – the changes that occur within certain groups (I wouldn’t want to limit myself to species) of living things over time – some creationists would call it “micro” evolution or simply “adaptation”, but they are invariably lambasted by the scientific community for using those terms.

In the sciences. big E Evolution always refers to biology. Other scientific disciplines might use the term to denote change over time, but there is only one theory of evolution and it is the one in biology.

I think most scientists would describe evolution within a species as microevolution and evolution above the species level as macroevolution. There’s nothing wrong with those terms as long as they are used correctly. Where YEC’s run into trouble is that they define microevolution as the amount of evolution they are willing to accept and macroevolution as the amount of evolution they aren’t willing to accept. In YEC, there is no real scientific definition for micro and macroevolution and the terms are usually used for rhetorical purposes instead of scientific ones.

@Van_Dreams

I hope it is obvious that when someone like me is casting doubt upon “evolution”, I am referring to “common descent” and related concepts.

That would really depend, wouldn’t it? You probably accept that wolves and domestic dogs share a common ancestor. You probably accept that humans share a common ancestor. Most YEC accept common ancestry within created kinds. However, they are never able to scientifically determine what a created kind is, and like the definitions for micro and macroevolution, created kinds are little more than a rhetorical device. Created kinds are certainly not scientific.

[Ralphie (ralph benson)]

Flew was known as a strong advocate of atheism arguing that one should presuppose atheism until empirical evidence of a God surfaces. His alma mater SOAS, University of London, St John’s College, Oxford.
Antony Flew also criticized the idea of life after death. In 2003 he was one of the signatories of the Humanist Manifesto III.

However, in 2004 he changed his position, and stated that he now believed in the existence of an Intelligent Creator of the universe, shocking colleagues and fellow atheists. He stated that in keeping his lifelong commitment to go where the evidence leads, he now believed in the existence of a God.
He taught at the universities of Oxford, Aberdeen, Keele, and Reading and at York University.