My personal view of Hebrew cosmology

[gbrooks9 (George Brooks)]

@Reggie_O_Donoghue

Let’s start with the heavens. I have previously brought up how the writer of Genesis called the firmament ‘heaven’, and nowhere does the bible give us any reason to differentiate between the two, which for followers of the solid firmament interpretation creates issues when it is stated that birds fly in the heavens (Jeremiah 4:25).

Even more damning to the dome theory is the parallelism between the first three days and the next three days. Day 4 has parallelism with day 1, sun inhabits day, stars and moon inhabit night. Day 6 has parallelism with day 3, animals and man inhabit earth. Day 5 therefore has parallelism with day 2; fish inhabit the waters below… so birds must inhabit the waters above. This to me seems to be a heavy suggestion that the waters above were clouds. Note too Proverbs 8:28, which refers back to creation:

“when he established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,”.

Some may point out that the Hebrew word can also be translated as ‘skies’, but the context indicates that it

@Reggie_O_Donoghue,

I don’t see the usual thoroughness that has been your trademark in prior posts.

There is one reference to the firmament as called heaven or sky.

And then we have several verses (which I have already mentioned to you), which uses the phrase “firmament of heaven” - - which according to you should be translated: “heaven of heaven” or “sky of sky” (see linked text below):

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I’m not sure about that interpretation, @Reggie_O_Donoghue Genesis 1:8 says God called the Firmament Heaven… but then, in rapid succession, we get four verses in the same chapter that uses the following language: Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it w…

Secondly, you don’t have a Hebrew article for “in” the heavens (Jeremiah 4:25). You have a syntax where the bird is flying somewhere in connection with the Heavens. I thought this was pretty obvious as well.

Birds do travel the sky… as does the firmament. The word Heaven is a reference to loftiness… heights…

And all you seem to be doing here is turn something the Hebrew calls “firm” … and turn it into anything you can think of that isn’t firm…