- First lesson of this thread: Refined and polished silver makes the best mirrors.
- Second lesson: Young Earth Creationism does not.
Cf Quetzalcoatl.
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I’m now wondering what they would have used for needles and thread.
?? The opening verses are a prophecy about Christ!
Scientifically we know no such thing. Without a “spirit-o-meter” science can’t even say spirits exist, so science can’t say anything about them.
You’re treating science as a religion. It isn’t.
So you have a ‘spirit-o-meter’? Patent it – you’ll become a billionaire!
Nope – that’s only true if you accept the YEC error that the Bible is a collection of twentieth-century objective news reports. It isn’t – it’s a library of multiple different kinds of literature, some of which no English reader can recognize because English doesn’t have them.
You’re engaging in linguistic and cultural imperialism, demanding that God has to conform to your modern worldview.
Nope. Since science can only detect ‘physical’ interaction, science can’t say anything at all about any other kinds of interaction.
Once again you’re demanding that God conforms to a scientific worldview – while you have yet to show any evidence that God cares about scientific accuracy.
Exactly!
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You need to take a university literature sequence: just because elements of an account are symbolic doesn’t mean that the account itself is symbolic. If I refer to a bunch of US dollars as “green” (e.g. “GImme some green, man”) it doesn’t mean I think the dollars are symbolic and especially doesn’t mean that the person I’m talking to is symbolic! I can write a story (cf. Aesop’s Fables) where every word in the story is meant literally but the story itself is not meant literally, and the reverse is true – I could write a story where every element is symbolic but the story is meant literally.
If he did that, then he was a fool, because nothing in the Bible is intended to talk about science. It may refer to something scientific – e.g. Malachi 3 – but it never, ever makes scientific points.
YEC is the biggest contributor to that kind of foolishness because of its insistence that the Bible teaches science.
Actually it isn’t – the writer of Job had no concept of “space”. The imagery is actually of the world sitting in the middle of the great deep without needing support.
Why would you expect to? No one is making such a suggestion . . . except, again, you.
Now: for once, could you pay attention to the topic instead of invoking your conspiracy theory that science is out to attack the Bible?
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Also the Sumerian use of winged serpents as divine beings. (I vaguely recall a story where a serpent lost its wings by being an unfaithful heavenly servant/messenger.)
Then there’s the broader Mesopotamian mythology where a serpent is earthly, wings are heavenly, so the winged serpent bridges the gap, being of two realms (this has interesting consequences for the Garden myth – the serpent crawling on its belly may be a reference to having lost its wings).
Silver, of course! 
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That’s “silver thread and golden needles”. 
In a similar vein, I once used the nature of light revealed by quantum mechanics to explain the Trinity. It is debatable how theologically sound the explanation was, but it did involve the use of scientific concepts to illuminate theological concepts.
There are some plants that make fine enough fibers that readily separate off, and some that make sharp enough points to use.
The Adam’s Needle and Thread Yucca comes to mind as an example, though one with no biogeographic plausibility.
- Thank you very much. Sewing with a Yucca Plant - Needle and Thread Bushcraft/Survival [5:42]