Magazine headline suggests: "Scientists Think We May Have the Evolutionary Timeline All Wrong"

I never said it was a fact. I said it was an explanation; in this case, it would qualify as a theory (Punctuated Equilibrium). That punctuated equilibrium occurs is a fact (we can observe it); why is a theory.

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Oh please do not go down that rabbit hole.

Been there, done that, definitely do not want the T shirt.

If a thing is proclaimed as true then it is considered a fact whether science wants a loophole or not!

Richard

“as is always the case when it comes to understanding where we come from, there is much more to learn,”…good article. Adam! And thanks for sharing…and true! there is more to learn. Even Popular Mechanics is weighing in on it now! I think that Uniformitarianism has had its critics for some time…but they have not fled to the YEC camp so far.

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Nothing in the article is arguing against Uniformitarianism. In fact, it is based on Uniformitarianism, the concept that the same mechanisms affecting modern populations would have affected past populations. In modern populations we see evolution ticking at different speeds, so we would expect the same to apply to past populations.

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How is the standard definition of what differentiates a “fact” from a “theory” a loophole?

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No theory becomes a fact.

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But they are treated as such until or unless proved otherwise. You now it. I know it, but I will guarantee at least 90% of the general public do not know it. They will hear or see it presented as fact and believe (expect) it to be so.
:roll_eyes:

Richard

No, they aren’t.

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Sorry, the Pantomime season has finished.

Richard

The ventriloquist season is also over. When you are finished putting words in scientists’ mouths, let me know.

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No such thing.

Get out of the Egyptian river and face the world.

Richard

Hello world.

Yep, theories are still theories. Facts are still facts. Theories are still not facts.

Putting words in other peoples’ mouths is not evidence for your claims. it is only evidence of your dishonesty.

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DO NOT CALL ME A LIAR!
I put no words into your mouth.
I know exactly how science treats theories and so do you. When a scientist on a TV program makes a statement about evolution it is resented as a fact, be it claimed lineage or hw it develops or Common Ancestry. They are all presented equally.
When Dan Brown mixed truth and fiction he was criticised for not distinguishing it. Science gets no such criticism for doing exactly the same thing.

Regardless of scientific protocols and dogma it is half truths at best

Richard

Then stop putting words in other peoples’ mouths.

I gave you a reference of a quite famous evolutionary biologist. He clearly states that the theory of evolution is a theory, not a fact. That’s how the field of biology views the theory of evolution. When you portray the position of biologists differently, you are lying about their postiion.

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Give it a rest!

Richard

Okay - I haven’t followed every last thread, but of the ones I’ve been skimming through lately, there seems to be one relentless theme, Richard - you parking yourself permanently in a state of ignorance, and from that immovable spot you continue to lob unsupportable taunts to all the more knowledgeable people patiently (and unsuccessfully so far as I’ve seen) trying to bring you up to speed.

Unless others here object and are finding it fulfilling to repeatedly answer you, I’m going to help you just go on a break from all this for a week. (and others here can be more productively engaged with each other too). You’ll still be able to sign in and read posts, but just not throw in posts of your own.

I did not say the article argues against Uniformitarianism. That was not what I was saying.

It doesn’t make sense at all out of the text of Genesis. Half a century ago is when that started to break down, back as the number of available manuscripts and inscriptions showing us how ANE people – including the Hebrews – thought and wrote began to multiply faster than they can be assessed.

Not by actual scientists – it’s popularized science which has that effect, and in that I include those who write the grossly-oversimplified textbooks for beginners.

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