Could that possibly be an indicator that your God is too small.
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Gerhard
(Gerhard Nebe-von Caron, formerly "Marvin", Sceptic Christian)
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If you can see the truth you will be born again, but it is easier to be born again whilst not yet dead, as to be born again when you are dead needs some serious intervention
Klax
(The only thing that matters is faith expressed in love.)
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This is nonsense. Of course they do, they always have. Why wouldn’t they? Apart from non-religious Jews.
Interesting thoughts. I am a new believer. I actually didn’t realise what I was missing out on until I found it in Jesus. So, I didn’t make it up to meet a need I was aware of.
However, in hindsight I am now aware of the unacknowledged existential despair and loneliness I lived in due to the nihilism of agnosticism/atheism. The feeling of relief at the end of that, is one of many overwhelming feelings that came with repentance and salvation.
The fact that we all die and there may not be an afterlife never bothered me. (Actually as one who appreciates and loves the natural world, I affirm the role of death and bodily recycling.) So if I was to have chosen religion to meet some need, it would have been the need for meaning, not fear of death.
But that’s just me. Certainly a lot of evangelism does seem to be designed to leverage fear of death and fear of hell. I have mixed feelings about that. I worry it’s an appeal to self-interest when the actual goal is supposed to be to glorify God. But I still have much to learn.
What type of Jews don’t believe in an afterlife? I must admit I don’t know many on a personal level but most of the sources I find online say otherwise. I am sure things changed quite a bit post-Holocaust but unlike what appears from most Christians, Jews are very much focused on the here and now. When Paul says “to die is gain” this would probably be scoffed at by many Jews. It is that type of thinking they try to ignore and why there is little focus on an afterlife. But such a belief seems to have existed for a very long time.
I do am a fan of nature.However the thought of dying and beign annihilated (meaning that my soul will get “destroyed” and then nothing happens )is terrifying .It would criple me to leave a life knowing that tommorrow i could die and not complete the things i want.I would be pretty mad about it .But if there is an afterlife even though i didnt complete the things i wanted i will still be happy
I think everyone wonders about the possibility that there is an afterlife. “O death, where is your sting?” From Paul in Corinthians I believe, as a wonderful benefit of knowing Christ, he says. I think it is difficult to say we know how Jews feel about the afterlife. Who can say for sure what people believe deep down about it? When death approaches quickly, we may change our minds.
Yes, didn’t you bother to read my earlier comments? I had a live class with a rabbi. Not that rabbis would know anything about Judaism. Go noodle around on the internet!
I agree that Sadducees and many Jews don’t believe in the afterlife; but I understand that at least some of the Hasidim do. If you read “The Chosen,” there’s quite a difference from mainline Jews.
Klax
(The only thing that matters is faith expressed in love.)
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Missed that on the Rabbi. What denomination? There’s no way ancient Jews didn’t believe in a spirit world. They certainly did. Samuel’s shade? Even if Solomon wasn’t sure. ‘Daniel’ and two of the major prophets were: Dan. 12:2; see also Isa. 26:19; Ezek. 37:1 ff.