Is the Supernatural essential to Christianity

[Vinnie]

@RichardG

Would seem to be deliberately going off at a tangent from the OP., which is not about the total existence of the Supernatural at all but the presence or necessity of it in this Natural (Scientific?) world.

For me, the natural world is sustained and created by God from nothing at every instant. That is what classical theism teaches and that is what classical arguments for God’s existence metaphysically demonstrate. Many people today are plagued with “occasional deism” which imagines God as a mechanic that has to step in to fix a broken part from time to time. I don’t think such an understanding is correct and I have tried to address it here.

https://discourse.biologos.org/t/primary-and-secondary-causes-god-through-not-vs-nature-and-gaps-are-scraps-aristotle-and-aquinas-and-cosmological-arguments/57616/13

@RichardG

I think that might justify an Ouch.

I do not see how you or anyone can just dismiss Philosophy as “just words” (games?)

And to say that science gives the real truth is to limit what truth is.

Read a little more slowly. That is not what I said, that is what I critiqued.

Vinnie