Why would other students conclude there must be a Designer when the process of the cosmos “is explained and accepted as purely mechanical and natural???”
As far as I an see, by just asking your question you are calling the inspired writer a liar.
The heavens declare the glory of God, and the expanse proclaims the work of his hands.
To anyone who gets a good look, all science declares the glory of God.
And can’t grasp that we aren’t able to see them if they’re there: we have no way – and there may not even be one, for good scriptural reasons – to tell the difference between an alteration of DNA by cosmic ray and one made because God changed it between sustaining His Creation from one moment to the next.
Are you equating your ability to see with that of atheists?
As the bishop said about the Christmas angels, there was no reason to think they have stopped singing: it is a matter of who has eyes to see.
As noted before and elsewhere, this was an influence on me, speaking about one cause or the other:
“…the most common mutations, transitions, are not really ‘copying errors,’ because the keto-enol transition of the base is driving them and the polymerase is working correctly. So if you’d like, that can be seen as providence more than chance.” John Mercer, molecular biologist
if you look at ants going to war you will see altruism at work as the individual sacrifices its “self” for the benefit of others. to consciously do that for others does require the conscious definition of self, e.g. the core concept of sin as to put the moral self above others. As this ability is an inheritable trait we talk about sin being inheritable.
If Evolution shows us anything it is that it is running on the word of God as in the feedback loop that controls the process conforms to the “word of God”, e.g. to love thy neighbour like thyself. To see how this rule leads to intricate networks and even interdependency between different kinds in complex ecosystems should be evidence for an overarching self concept pointing at God unless it is hidden to the observer for preoccupation with his own self.
There’s no desperation involved when there’s no evidence to the contrary, despite how many people have put a great deal of effort into finding some.
I’ll let someone else decide if it’s worth bringing in my account of the student I helped through that crisis.
What a waste of time that whole post was. There were 18 following that not only ignored it, but continued the same arguments as before but with @Buzzard instead.
Whether it is abiogenesis, that has not been defined, or evolution that has been falsely deified, it appears that some people cannot resist talking about science and therefore ignoring God.
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I’m afraid you’re still in the same rut, not being able to realize that talking exclusively about ‘pure science’, as you call it, necessitates ‘ignoring God’, because we are taking about things physical, measuring them etc. Have you measured God recently? I bet you haven’t.
You cannot detect God in science unless you have the elusive divine-o-meter. So you are right there with @Buzzard, making false accusations, accusations about other Christians ignoring God. They’re not. If you ever did any science1, you would be ‘ignoring God’ too. It is mechanical methodology, not theology or philosophy, two things in which you may have some expertise but conflate into science, because you pretty clearly don’t know what science is. Evolution in biology really is analogous to the evolution of the universe in that you cannot find God in either of them, scientifically. Science doesn’t do God tests.
*Is there any way you could do some science coursework? Online, if nothing else (there are probably some freebies out there), but even a low level physics or biology course might refresh your memory as to how it works.
No, you just don’t want to take my arguments and give them any legitimacy
There is no such thing and never will be. That is just an excuse.
Funny how someone else has joined in on “my side” what are the chances of that?.
Why on earth would I want to study something that ignores God? I do not have the time. I am too busy promoting God’s Kingdom
Sigh,
I have never forgotten how science works, but you ignore it.
Like I said,
Richard
The science of cosmology is an analogue of the science of evolution. Do Christian cosmologists deny God when they are talking about cosmology, ignoring him?
Sorry, Dale. Perhaps my comments were a bit harsh and unfair. You’re still my favourite Mandarin duck.
My psychiatrist says I get a vindictive on Thursdays … the medication doesn’t always work.
Calling time on this one. Feel free to start a new thread if there are any themes you want to keep exploring.
As for this thread, well… you don’t have to leave, but you can’t stay here. 
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