Is Evolution a form of religion

[Dale (evolutionary providentialist)]

There are your pathetic comedic skills failing you again.

We’ve been over this before. I really wanted evolution to be true. Yeah, right.

@Buzzard

That’s fine, but it’s only part of the story. You can’t explain what natural forces rearranged the DNA to allow mammals to evolve from fish … that is something that cannot ever be known.

@Dale

Neutral drift and the neutral theory of evolution demonstrate that complexity and new information can be produced by evolution.

Christians who deny evolution are denying God’s sovereignty and his ability to providentially intervene. On the molecular level. By mutations.

@Dale

@Buzzard

None of the doubters at evolutionnews.org are YEC either.

Yeah, but they believe ID is scientific, and that is mistaken! I used to be one of them too (an advocate of ID anyway), mostly, pretty much entirely, out of incredulity, not knowing about neutral drift and the neutral theory of evolution, the seminal paper on the same not dropping until after I had had 7th grade biology (in fact, not until after I had graduated from high school).

@Dale

Let me refresh your sadly short memory:

@Dale

@Buzzard

No matter how desperately you want to believe it, it’s impossible for ToE to become a fact.

You’re funny and just making things up – why? Maybe you’re desperate to retain your false belief. What makes you think I’m in the least bit desperate to believe it or that I even wanted to believe it?

Two things, no, three things combined to change my mind. I was an OEC for about three decades (and a YEC but not a noisy one for decades before that).

1. ID is not scientific
   2.“…the most common mutations, transitions, are not really ‘copying errors,’ because the keto-enol transition of the base is driving them and the polymerase is working correctly. So if you’d like, that can be seen as providence more than chance.” John Mercer, molecular biologist
2. The obvious sovereignty of God’s providence in the timing and placing of mutations in DNA before my nephrectomy.

Add a fourth:

4. Five short of fourscore years of experience of my Father’s providences in my life, a small multitude of instances – I keep a log to enumerate them. Some of them fun, some are hard, some startling, but all are wonderful and all are good, even the hard ones.

Merely refreshing your memory will probably not cure your spontaneous comedic outbursts. I don’t know what to do about them. But they are entertaining and not really a problem, so I’m not really objecting to them.