I am sorry but I do not see this. If you are upholding what you see of the Old Covenant how can you be breaking it? Unless the Old Covenant points to and is fulfilled by the New one there is no conflict.
We claim that Christ is the promised saviour but that is not what the Patriachal Covenant points to. The basic promise is that God would be their God and they would be His people. As far as the Jews missing the boat is concerned, most believe that the second coming will be in the form that the Jews recognise so they are still looking toward the same thing Christians are.
Who is the āweā you are speaking for, Richard? Around here you need to be clear about that - none of us here speaks for Biologos, much less all the others or even the āregularsā in this forum, at least not in any official capacity.
Well, sure ā¦ Generalizations are useful to make points, but if the person disagreeing with you is also a Christian, then your āweā may be a tad presumptuous as far as theyāre concerned.
No argument about lifeās tests(!), but Paul was speaking about a different kind of test, maybe a ācleanliness testā? That is what I was referring to. We are given ālaws of loveā, moral law, as a measuring stick to see how we compare. So contrary to the antinomianā¦ (there are 1050 ārulesā in the NT according to this count: NT Commands).
The rules, the standards, let us know what āaliveā looks like. Otherwise we can pretend whatever we want and deceive ourselves (which is especially easy if we avoid tests).
Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?āunless indeed you fail to meet the test! 2 Corinthians 13:5
As a free thinking Christian which doesnt care about any theological doctrine of any church and instead rely on my own understanding of the bible and Christianity,for me it was a HUGE MISTAKE that Christians abandoned the Old Testament laws . You have to keep morality in check thatās why these laws exist. With the abandonment of these immorality sweeped trough the church and destroyed the faith.
Jesus did fulfilled the law indeed but he fulfiled it to set an example. Not to abolish it.
The church has done a lot of mistakes since the begining. Iām also not very fond of Paul which I do believe he wasnāt a real Christian at all as majority of his beliefs are problematic as well. No other apostles in my memory have talked to abolish the law as much as Paul did which is strange
Actually thereās a fairly simple guide: if it makes you uncomfortable but benefits others itās probably right; if it makes you comfortable or happy but doesnāt benefit anyone else itās probably wrong. If it makes you happy and benefits others, itās a tougher measure.
But they have a point: love is the fulfillment of the law, we are told, and more than one saint has echoed Augustineās āLove God and do as you pleaseā since if you love God what p
leases you will over time come to match what pleases Him.
As for examining ourselves, thereās this:
āBut the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.ā
By that, lately Iāve been at about a 4.5 out of nine.
Iām certainly not saying we should be legalists and have a checkoff list (as opposed to a Chekhov one ;Ā -Ā ) for ourselves and others, but we need to be familiar with the rules to play the game correctly!
Itās also a measure for less than the ultimate: if youāre putting effort into helping othersā lives at the cost of something we could be doing for ourselves, that is a lesser form of laying down our lives.
I often wonder if my volunteer conservation work counts, especially on the days when it seems more OCD-driven than anything.
Would you beeive that I agree with you about Love 100% It is a principle that supercedes any law. Laws can be broken but you either Love or you donāt.
Iām terrified. 
