Ha! 
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I knew a guy that got fired for doing exactly that⌠and here we are 50 years later after Hal Lindsey sold enough books to buy his Mercedes (figuratively, anyway⌠or not).
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I stumbled to some lines written by a Finnish writer (Tommy Hellsten) that were a good reminder for me and hopefully to others. I try to translate them to English:
Instead of analyzing the flaws of others, analyze your own reactions to the flaws of others. An analysis of yourself brings awareness. You do not get awareness by analyzing [the faults of] others.
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There are some of us that are appalled by the climate change hysteria and the exaggerated claims made by some.
An example:
Yes, there are exaggerated claims about climate change, as in almost any disputed topic. It may be sometimes hard to put the feelings away and think about the matter in a rational way.
Climate change will probably not wipe humanity away as it is unlikely that the greenhouse effect would run to anything like what happened in Venus. What it can do is make living in some parts of the globe very restricted and lower the quality of life in much of the globe. Economy is likely to face serious hits if we do not slow down the rate of change - the slower it happens, the more time there is to adapt the economy and life styles to the change. What we are not willing to do now voluntarily will become a necessity in the future.
One reason why the worst scenarios have not happened is because countries have already done much to slow down the climate change. Technology has advanced and âcleanâ energy is becoming more common. Much positive changes, although not yet enough to halt the climate change.
The opposite is happening in many places in the world.
I was just in South Africa earlier this month. We had dinner with a South African family. Their house was dark, expect for the few light bulbs that had batteries and some candles. They had an app on the phone to tell them when the scheduled load shedding would be, as the country has shut down many coal plants and there are electricity blackouts.
Lack of electricity, or high electricity prices due to abandonment of fossil fuel generation, is a powerful way to lower the standard of living.
Here are two natural draft cooling towers in Soweto from a shuttered coal plant. They were painted to make them prettier and people bungee jump from the connecting bridge. And then the people go home to intermittent electricity.
There are no easy solutions. If we act now, some will pay a price. If we push the decisions to the future, it is likely that a much larger group of people will suffer more.
There is always a need to find compromises. One key reason why the rise in greenhouse gases has not slowed down as much as hoped is that politicians value short-term profits more than long-term benefits. Better to have peace and sufficient votes now than risk everything for the benefit of future generations. It seems that you cannot have both.
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I expect we will agree on very little in this topic.
Your subsequent detail sounds like an affirmation of @knor and the opposite of your âoppositeâ.
I find it strange that you would think that, but that is ok.
He said it can make living very restricted and lower the quality of life. You said âthe opposite is happeningâ, i.e., living is less restricted and the quality of life is going up. And then your example said what?
Dale,
I think you misunderstood either knor or me.
He wrote that climate change lowers quality of life.
My point was that policy designed to stop climate often lowers quality of life â sometimes radically lowers, as in my example of blackouts in South Africa.
And the degradation in the quality of life is immediate with the oppressive policies of the climate change fanatics, while the projected changes in the future due to climate change are model projections in a field where model projections have been notoriously inaccurate.
I now understand your omission.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha, true to form
As are you, broâ.
It is not climate change that lowers the quality of life. It is the response that seeks to deny people the advantages of electrical power. There is no decent scientific support for the proposition that the normal increase in temperatures observed for the last âŚsay 250 yearsâŚis largely a result of human activity in general and carbon dioxide in particular. Water is THE greenhouse gas, one of Godâs greatest gifts to all life on earth. Check out: https://co2coalition.org or https://clintel.org Or, put Dr. John Clauser, 2022 Nobel Prize winner in Physics in the browser, and read his statement. He is a full-blown renaissance scientist, with most of his current effort aimed a safer breast-cancer diagnoses. Some will whine that âhe is out of his fieldâ. Meaning they have never had a chance to work with a real renaissance genius. I have. Like Galileo and DiVinci, there are none of the narrow boundaries that we try to use today. According to Genesis 1, God spent the whole third day laying down the fossil fuels for us to use today. Before moving on to the fourth day and giving us the Moon to regulate our cycles of life and generate the tides. Then, with a world full of edible plants on the surface and abundant fuel below the ground God moved on to animal life. And, only with a world teeming with plants and animals was human life introduced.
Yes, and in other areas electricity is available but the prices have been driven unnecessarily high.
100% trueâŚand i have the bible support for this. i have not ever had any of the respondants who dissagree with me present biblical evidence that only the balance of probabilites supports any claim that a literal reading of important biblical themes is opposed to the position i hold.
instead what happens almost always is a descent into this ridicuous melle of âyou hurt someones feelingsâ. If one is going to debate ones position, then one needs to be capable of absorbing robust statements from those who disagree. i do a lot of that and there is far fewer of me than of those who are on the side of Biologos here!
Kendfel i am not going to argue this stupidity with you any longer. Give it a restâŚi wont respond any more to this kind of post from you.
that is falseâŚit does not say that God created these fuels as a result of creation. What the bible actually tells us specifically is that all life was buried in the flood of Genesis 6-9
Genesis 7: 19Finally, the waters completely inundated the earth, so that all the high mountains under all the heavens were covered.
20The waters rose and covered the mountaintops to a depth of fifteen cubits.c 21And every living thing that moved upon the earth perishedâbirds, livestock, animals, every creature that swarms upon the earth, and all mankind. 22Of all that was on dry land, everything that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23And every living thing on the face of the earth was destroyedâman and livestock, crawling creatures and birds of the air; they were blotted out from the earth, and only Noah and those with him in the ark remained.
What i find incredible among TEists is that they go search for a solution to fossil fuels in secular societies interpretation, a world view that exists because there is no god, and yet the Christian bible and numerous writers within it (such as the prophet Isaiah, Apostles peter and paul, Christ, and finally the Apostle John) explain over and over again exactly how the world was destroyed by a floodâŚand yet you continue to try to find other solutions that are simply not biblical.
then, in order to help promote this view, Sunday worship is introduced into Christianity and then used as a means of discrediting the only commandment that tells us that in six days the lord created the heavens and the earth but on the Seventh Day he rested and blessed and sanctified!
That is the real trickery in Christianity today, like the flood of Noahs time, people were eating and drinking assured that their knowledge that it had never rained or flooded the earth before would keep them safe from the stupidity of Noah, Enoch, and Methuselahs preachingâŚhere we are in end time following suit with the doing away of the Sabbath in order to deny the global flood, to deny creation in six daysâŚI believe this is what the mark of the beast isâŚthis is the counterfeit.
- By what authority do you expect everyone to become a Seventh Day Adventist in everything except name?
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