I did not leave the thread. I just was saying that I don’t believe it’s fruitful for someone to say my experiences was this, and I say I dont accept everyone’s experiences as higher than theological truths, and then they say they experienced this and I just reply the same. I felt that was what the convo was becoming and I felt like it’s better to bounce that type of conversation.
I don’t believe that there is any evidence for God beyond using him to fill in gaps of science that’s not answered yet and for personal experiences. My faith is just that. It’s pure faith. That faith is predominantly used to fill in gaps of my experience. Atheism could perhaps just as easily have filled them in but it never grew, only faith did. I also don’t believe in any of the spiritual gifts existing anymore. I don’t believe in people seeing angels, demons, being healed miraculously on the spot from prayer and laying on of hands, I don’t believe in speaking in tongues or prophecy existing anymore. I think it all ceased because of scripture. But that’s a completely different thread. I’m bringing it up only to showcase that I sincerely don’t believe in scientific evidence for God and only see him in gaps that I also believe may eventually be filled with science , but in return will open up more doors and that there will always be another door.
The experiences that I’ve had from prayers being answered is also a byproduct of faith that though however unlikely, still has a statistical secular answer and it comes down to what I place my faith in to interpret that data.
I also don’t believe that scripture teaches eternal damnation of a conscious torment. I hope to make a post on it one day. I don’t think atheists need to fear dying without God. I think it’s just that.
I believe we all live this one time. We die and we are all resurrected and at that resurrection those in a Christ receive eternal life and those without Christ don’t receive that eternal life and die again. Their eternal punishment is death and that death is only a punishment because they could have remained alive eternally in a restored heaven and earth. I don’t believe that fear results in true faith but love.
You may really enjoy the studies put out by rethinking hell. It’s a incredible podcast with over 400 hours , and 90% of that is debates, solely on the topic of hell.
I sincerely believe that upon exhausting all scripture on hell and tracing back the words the Bible does not teach hell as many believe it to be.