If you don’t want me to think that you haven’t, then make sure your responses reflect the fact that you have.

You have a view. You emphasise what you can see, measure or observde. You choose the data you want to assess or include and accuse others of lying if they do not value it the same as you do.
I have hands-on experience. I learned to take science seriously the hard way, by having to face the consequences of not doing so.

Big deal! Is a minister not a valid job?
I didn’t say or even imply that it wasn’t. Stop putting words into my mouth.
Of course a minister is a valid job. But it is not a STEM-based job. And ministers do need to remember that they are ministering to people in STEM-based jobs.

Stop playnig the Job card. We are not talking about people’s jobs or practical, industrial or aplplication scince…
No I will not stop playing the job card for the simple reason that that is where the rubber hits the road when it comes to science. As I said, that is where I learned the hard way of the need to take science seriously and not to get sidetracked onto philosophy.

You are claiming that the empiracle view is the only valid view.
No I am not. Stop putting words into my mouth.

Get off your high horse.
Would you say something like that to someone who was interviewing you for a STEM-based job?