Evolution and Theology

[St.Roymond]

@Piet_J_Strydom

Remember now that the Firmament of Heaven is that surface of Earth of day 2

No, the firmament is the solid dome, it is not the surface of the earth.

@Piet_J_Strydom

However, the word “made” is not in the Hebrew.

Yes it is.

@Piet_J_Strydom

The Stars that is mentioned in Genesis is the Planets of the Solar System.

No, they’re the stars. It might be possible that they include the planets, but the stars created in Genesis 1 are all those points of light in the sky.

@Piet_J_Strydom

This Light of Day 1 was the kickstart of Nuclear fusion

Nope – it’s just light, photons with no stated source. Don’t add science fiction to the text.

There’s no nebular theory in Genesis 1.
There’s no science there at all.

@Piet_J_Strydom

• in the description of the Bodies of Adam and Eve.
• They were immortal, and their bodies were light

No, they were made of solid matter – that’s in the text.

@paleomalacologist

It is a longstanding (at least since Price’s claims) lie that old-earth views were invented in support of evolution.

Yep – an earth millions, billions, or even a trillion years old was derived from the scripture long before even Galileo.

@Piet_J_Strydom

Cover the Sun with a cloud, and the Moon goes dark.

No it doesn’t. I was in Miami when there was hurricane weather, and there were clouds that covered the sun thickly enough it gave no light, but the moon was visible, lit up like normal.

@Piet_J_Strydom

Those are the 3 verses that says if you darken the Sun, the Moon will not shine.

But they don’t. Those are examples of Hebrew parallelism, where two separate but similar phenomena are stated together.

@Piet_J_Strydom

Which will give an understanding that If the Moon walks in Brightness, and the Sun shines 7 times stronger, then the Moon will be as bright as the Sun is now.

But the text doesn’t say that – you’re adding in a logical connector that isn’t present.

@Piet_J_Strydom

where the Bible is incredibly powerful is when it described a Nebular Hypothesis on how the Earth formed from Gas, Liquids, and solids.

It describes no such thing – you’re reading that into the text.
You’re reading a lot of things into the text that aren’t there.

[jammycakes (James McKay)]

@cewoldt

You may say you don’t have time to watch hour long videos.

You should never assume that anyone has time to watch hour long videos, Craig, no matter what their worldview or theological position, or what the video is about. It’s a serious time commitment, especially when we also have work to do and family members to look after.

If you want to persuade someone to watch an hour long video, you need to provide some evidence up front that it is going to be worth their time to do so. This may take the form of a summary with timestamps, or a transcript that they can search. In the absence of such evidence, it is the height of presumption to expect anyone to watch your hour long video before deciding whether or not to take you seriously, and the height of disrespect to accuse them of “not listening” or “closed mindedness” if you don’t.

Once again, there’s nothing “evolutionist” about this whatsoever. It’s just basic principles of good communication skills that apply to everyone regardless of their worldview.