I thought I raised that a long time ago as my understanding of the subject got me banned from RZIM as a heretic. I simply asked how people imagined themselves to look like in their resurrection and by what property they would wish to be identified that made them distinguishable from Jesus in the afterlife. Would they want to exist there in the form in which they left, bent and frail and with difficulties to reach their feet to tie their shoelaces or as they thought of themselves at the peak of their life or even better as superman/woman like?
I found that I failed to answer Henry in 2016 who actually invited me to comment on that in Jan and eventually joined that thread back in august and I wonder if he ever saw my comments. Do humans have a non-physical soul? (And how does modern science affect the question?) - #146 by marvin
I think it is in this thread I last used part of the poem I wrote for my mother in laws funeral:
to live forever is the art
to learn to live in every heart
Ever since I use a different form:
to live forever is the art
to learn to live in Jesus heart.
If the resurrection does leave us with a physically resurrected body of Christ in the hope to come back in our own physical body his death was in vain as it left us with our desire to be a self, a separate unit from God with our own authority. Jesus heart is found in everyone who lets him into their heart - and that is where you want to be.
It boils down to our understanding of life and eternal life and trying to get a logically coherent worldview so once you understand what life is and that God did not create life, as you only can create what does not exist, you can be born again as in becoming part of eternal life again.
I learned about life from researching viability in microorganisms and figured out that it is the ability to control the flow of matter/energy at will. The bacterium is a bot with simple instruction encoded in its DNA. Thus you can kill it by scrambling its instructions, DNA denaturation or by depriving it of the control of energy gradients required to maintain its system, e.g. membrane permeabilization. Humans can transmit will over time by generating extra corporal code that can be transmitted without personal connection and we are aware that we can receive will in that way that we can incorporate.
Once we understand life in that way we can become will aware ad live in the will and realise who’s will we are doing an adapt a life in “thy will be done” and submit to Gods will.
Some people believe that the belief in a physical resurrection is the hallmark of being a Christian as well as believing in his creation by an act of magic. So the question is
Do the Christians here believe the resurrection is metaphysical
and
Do the Christians here believe the conception of Jesus is metaphysical
My understanding of Jesus is that his conception was physical and that he was born had a metaphysical cause and that his death was physical and his resurrection was metaphysical.
In both events a miracle happened as an act of hate and oppression was turned into a beacon of love and hope, a complete reversal of reality caused by the power of the word, to overcome the self and do something based on the word of God, to love thy neighbour like thyself (not oneself) thus giving up ones wishes for oneself for the sake of others. If we want to be our self for eternity we do not follow this word but want to be like God our self. But that is what the church seems to promise in its teaching, the ultimate prosperity gospel