I am a Christian…of course I am arguing the philosophical view and that is exactly the point. How can a Muslim be a Muslim if they do not follow the Koran?
What i do not understand is how other individuals who claim to be Christian do not follow its fundamentals?
The red flag for me here is when i read stuff like “Adam doesnt follow science”. Mine is not special pleading St Roymond…its what God expects of us it seems to me that the habit here instead is straw pluck only those things that suit your observational habits. There are many examples in the bible where people were caught out because of exactly that same habit…take the following example:
Luke 17:26-30
New King James Version
26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
You know what interesting about the above text from Luke? Its strangely familiar given my previous argument (that you call special pleading) from the apostle Peter…
2 Peter 2: 1Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow in their depravity, and because of them the way of truth will be defamed. 3In their greed, these false teachers will exploit you with deceptive words. The longstanding verdict against them remains in force, and their destruction does not sleep.
4For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them deep into hell,a placing them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5if He did not spare the ancient world when He brought the flood on its ungodly people, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, among the eight; 6if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction,b reducing them to ashes as an example of what is coming on the ungodly;c 7and if He rescued Lot, a righteous man distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if all this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.
Here we have two apostles who were contemporaries both claiming a literal reading of Moses writings in the book of Genesis (specifically the flood and Sodom and Gomorah)
Instead of coming at me with moral arguments…deny my arguments with bible texts or id suggest there is no option but to accept them. I regularly post the appropriate bible bible texts you should study them in good conscience.
What is really interesting…I am yet to see anyone prove my quotes from 2 Peter false using other bible texts. You are an educated man St Roymond…put that scholarly brain of yours to good use and show theologically that the YEC doctrine here is wrong please.
The argument “God left these physical evidences for us to find” (fossil record and radiometric dating etc) simply doesnt add up. It does not explain why God would tell us one thing in His inspired Word, that is completely at odds with the physical evidence? What this actually proves is that the physical evidences are corruptible and have been corrupted by Satan and, secular interpretation of those evidences has clouded the judgement of a multitude of seemingly God fearing individuals such that they are blind to Gods Word and don’t even realise it. It reminds me of an appropriate text here:
Matthew 24:23-25
21st Century King James Version
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, ‘Lo, here is Christ,’ or ‘there,’ believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.