If anyone can be chagrined in heaven, I’m sure she is, with all the Mariology nonsense!
That reminds me of this from Lewis in The Great Divorce, about Sarah Smith:
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In case anyone wants to see it with their own eyes… hard to believe it’s only 7 pages in my hard copy
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- The tragic thing–demonic IMO–is that one doesn’t have to be Calvinist to be a YEC, as Christianity Today has pointed out: Evangelical Mike Johnson ‘Raised Up’ as House Speaker .
- And I say: “A pox on both their houses!”
- That link is important reading for non-Americans [or Americans] who may well wonder if I’ve become inordinately delusional and anti-YEC. YEC-ism in the U.S. is political. I know personally because every YEC-ist I know, among my family and acquaintances here in the U.S. is political.
- @bluebird1, much like “the Pal” in either Niagra Skit, when I hear someone say “YEC”, I say
“YEC!!! S-l-o-w-l-y I turn, … step by step …”
- Why one might ask? Gee, … could be because my mother’s niece is a lesbian; so’s my oldest brother’s sister-in-law; so’s his ex-daughter-in-law, who is now married to a transgender male-to-female, and my youngest brother’s youngest son is gay and living with his partner unmarried because it’s cheaper. I am fond, and protective of each, knowing full-well that each is odious to YECs, as a rule, and worse: a political target.
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True. Though the Reformed Baptist wing of the SBC controls a lot and I would lump them in with this Neo-Puritan group.
Kristin DuMez did an interesting interview with Politico about Mike Johnson and Christian Nationalism and the David Barton influence, which is huge in the same homeschooling circles where YEC is required to be part of the group.
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- I agree wholeheartedly, which is why I say: “A pox on both their houses”.
- Not that you asked, but I came across this: 5 Reasons Not to Support New Calvinism
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Yikes:
That line caught the attention of Kristin Kobes Du Mez, a historian who specializes in evangelical Christianity and politics. The idea that America is founded on a creed is a common one among evangelicals, and it was a sign to her that Johnson adheres to a worldview that can be described as Christian nationalist.
Johnson, a Shreveport, Louisiana, native, entered politics after spending more than two decades defending conservative Christian causes as a litigator at the conservative legal advocacy group Alliance Defending Freedom, and throughout his career, he has argued in courts and drafted legislation to outlaw same-sex marriage and restrict abortion.
Let’s hope the rational Evangelicals win who recognize separation of church and state is the best guarantee of their freedom of worship. If love and freedom is good enough for God it should be for those who worship Him as well.
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That’s a lot of receipts from pre-2016. I regret to inform people that the 2016 and 2020 elections and COVID led to even more extreme shenanigans on the science-denial and Christian nationalism and blatant racism fronts. And they kept all the misogyny and added to it as more abuse allegations and abuse cover-up allegations came out. It’s really a sad scene.
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It’s the explanation given by a Jesuit priest as well as by a Lutheran church historian, the first from the actual definitions and the second from actual use of the authority. Recently I came across a blog piece by a Roman Catholic theologian who actually mused about what would happen if the pope decided to use this authority without consultation with all the bishops or at least with a broad-based consultative group.
More than one church historian has observed that in practice the radical reformation threw out one pope and replaced him with a multitude. That’s related to what an eastern Orthodox bishop once noted, that the horde of denominations in the West were the fruit of the seeds that Rome sowed since once you throw out collegiality then autocratic heads of groups become inevitable – and if Rome hadn’t been so thorough at killing those who seriously disagreed the splintering would have started before the end of the first millennium.
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November 2015 is when I told kith and kin that the son of Satan and precursor to the Antichrist had arrived. They thought I was delusional then. They’re not laughing at me now.
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Regardless of one’s views on homosexuality, this is just ridiculous:
And this is scary:
… besides being pretty ignorant.
He’s definitely a Dominionist whether he’ll claim that title or not, and so I have to agree–
This is worth a read to get a grasp of just how bad some ‘evangelicals’ can be:
Yeah, they were clueless about baptism and separation of church and state, but they shouldn’t have been! (If you weren’t baptized as an infant and thus on the state ledger you were a dangerous anarchist. 
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I know it’s hard, but let’s try to steer the topic away from the blatantly political and LGBTQ rights and back to the OP, which concerns the intersection of a certain group and YEC promotion.
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sanctum excrementum!
Amen, amen, amen!
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Calvin’s Geneva is really what the New Calvinists apparently desire, a place where heretics can be put to death – maybe not burned at the stake, but I wouldn’t put that past some Dominionists I’ve known. What bothers me is how anyone can look at that and not see that it’s all antichrist.
Anyway, does anyone have any figures for the overlap? I’ve never really paid attention to the religious leanings of any YEC folks; I only know a few because they volunteered that information, and those were Nazarene, Assembly of God, and ‘non-denominational’.
This feels like a kind of reverse dog whistle
Did you have anything you wanted to add about DeYoung “not being racist, but seeing the world through racist eyes”?
No, because I didn’t say that. I wasn’t directing my “blatant racism” comment at any person in particular. Jemar Tisby left the PCA over racism. The Geneva Commons fiasco that Aimee Byrd was involved in centered on PCA and OPC pastors making racist and sexist comments in a private Facebook group. Charlie Dates, Ralph West, Beth Moore and Russell Moore left the SBC over racism. Bethlehem Baptist Church imploded and John Piper’s replacement resigned over racism.
You once insinuated I was racist because I was quoting Thomas Sowell
First time for me hearing Beth Moore and Russell Moore left the SBC over racism. A quick search and it looks like it was an issue among others with the SBC and racial reconciliation or CRT.
Who was this? I can’t identify anyone tied to racism
Jason Meyer. He resigned because he wasn’t on-board with the treatment of women and minorities. He was the one alleging abusive leadership, not being accused of it.