I hope you mean ‘majority’, not ‘mobility’, otherwise I’m going to have to go into hiding from the marching morons…
I’m afraid I mean mobility, which is abbreviated in common parlance. And they sound and look like the majority as they are most vocal.
If i say I do not know, it means I do not know.
You watched one fly of course. (That would be the scientific method)
I will admit I had not come across the microraptors and, having looked them up I do not see how @T_aquaticus could say that they did not have wings like birds. (Because they appear to have feathered wings!) I would have thought that a four winged creature would send it off at a tangent from birds. By the article I read they seemed to have a flight method closer to insects than birds, but even that seems uncertain. If they had powered flight it is not obvious how the muscles anchored or could function.
Clearly, since China opened up, the resources and variety of specimens has grown substantially and not within my vision.
There is always the doubt as to whether evolution can join the dots, even if you have increased the number of dots, but without all the info I am not able to argue with any certainty or backing.
It still relies on a more defined transformaition mechanism(s) than you show at present and there is lways the Pilosophical parado of why anything should just develop or improve in the fisrt place (regardless of selection after the fact)
Anyone with common sense would not bother to even try. I probably could if i put my mind to it bt i dooubt you would accept my findings as valid
But that is the dfference between us. I work in abstract and concept as opposed to hard data and specific examples. Surprise, surprise the resulting conclusions do not tally! (But the scientific version must be correct!)
Perhaps this has reached an impasse. I have offered a few concessions which should keep you happy, because you refiuse to budge a mm.
Richard
In saying ‘they do not’, you are saying that you know something. You are completely, fully, truly implicitly saying that you know that they do not. Don’t you know that?
I think that the evolutionary process doesn’t work, but I would be lying if I claim to know that.
Richard
That’s fine. As is the fact that we know (a subset of believe) and we know (a subset of believe) we’re not lying that, just as you are not in any regard.
I am not calling it lying as such. You clearly think that you are correct.
But you can be mistaken without lying.
Mistaken? Heaven forbid that!
(It is a shame that scientists as a whole are not as certain or unshaken as those on this forum, neither, I suspect, do they take offence if questioned or disagreed with.)
RIchard
That is still debated within the scientific community. Microraptor could have been capable of powered flight, although it may have not been much better than how chickens fly now. That really doesn’t matter. If these adaptations are for flight and can only be used for flight, as is claimed by the argument of irreducible complexity, then you are only arguing against yourself. Microraptor had a subset of the features in birds, but didn’t have all of them. This demonstrates flight in birds is reducible.