@Richard_Wright1 Thanks and you are correct, it is impossible to reply to everyone while holding a demanding job which is why I’m just getting back to the topic that I started. However, my statement was actually related to the reliability of the scripture not destroying the faith, [quote=“Hisword, post:29, topic:36424”]
I am convinced that the logical result of the movement of evolutionary creationism will destroy the reliability of the scripture and if unchecked will result in the next generation to fully reject the bible.
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your view that evolution will destroy the Christian faith.
Tim Keller puts it this way.
“If you hold to the view that Adam and Eve were not literal, and you realize the
author of Genesis was probably trying to teach us that Adam and Eve were real people who sinned, and
that Paul certainly was, then you have to face the implications for how you read Scripture. You may say,
“Well, the Biblical authors were ‘men of their time’ and were wrong about something they were trying to
teach readers.” The obvious question is, “how will we know which parts of the Bible to trust and which
I am not arguing something so crude as “if you don’t believe in a literal Adam and Eve, then you
don’t believe in the authority of the Bible!” I contended above that we cannot take every text in the Bible
literally. But the key for interpretation is the Bible itself. I don’t believe Genesis 1 can be taken literally
because I don’t think the author expected us to. But Paul is different. He most definitely wanted to teach us
that Adam and Eve were real historical figures. When you refuse to take a Biblical author literally when he
clearly wants you to do so, you have moved away from the traditional understanding of the Biblical
authority. As I said above, that doesn’t mean you can’t have a strong, vital faith yourself, but I believe such
a move can be bad for the church as a whole, and it certainly can lead to confusion on the part of
Keller does not question the faith of those that hold to a different view (YES I KNOW KELLER IS AN OLD EARTHER) but his point is a crucial one as it relates to whether you believe the bible is true or not.
For instance, when the bible says in Jude 14-15
_It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, to execute judgment on all and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”
Jude clearly believes Adam was a real historical figure and the counting down from Adam through Seth follows
Gen 5:1 Thus all the days that Adam lived were 930 years, and he died.
So, those that don’t believe Adam was an historical figure must deal with this problem in addition to what Paul said about Eve.
2 Corinthians 11:3 _
But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ._
1 Timothy 2:13
For Adam was formed first, then Eve;
Richard, do you believe Adam and Eve were historical people?