We sail in different oceans.
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On different planets. Possibly in different planetary systems.
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You appear to be missing the fourth core law of logic. I can see why though, it breaks down your pretty picture.
Well let’s hear it.
Yes. It seems my system has only one standard and your’s has a double standard. You demand a burden of proof that you yourself cannot carry.
Law Of Sufficient Reason introduced by Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz
Sorry but this makes no sense to me.
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My previous comment didn’t make sense to you because you either didn’t read my last reply to Terry, or you failed to grasp the point. Terry was asking me to describe how the Isomorphism translates from laws to persons on a substantive level. I pointed out that it isn’t necessary. If it were, physics minus the Plack epoch would not be a strictly mathematical excersise based on our fundamental faith in logic, it would be substantive. That’s the double standard.
As for the 4th law, I assumed that would be your play…
The Law of Sufficient Reason isn’t a fourth independent law. It is completely dependent on the first three.
Before you can even determine what counts as a ‘sufficient reason,’ you first have to use the Law of Identity to identify what something is, and the Law of Non-Contradiction to exclude what it is not. Without those two, ‘sufficient reason’ has no meaning.
So this isn’t a fourth law. It’s an application of the three fundamental laws.
Or you failed to realize when replying to my post and using “you” implies you are talking to “me” and what you said made no sense based on what I said. How was I supposed to know you were responding to Terry?
Says you.
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I said ‘you’ because you responded to Bill as if you understood the context. But you didn’t. Not my bad…
And actually it was Jesus who said that apart from Him [Trinitarian Logos] you can do nothing.
Its significant, because by stubbornly insisting that anyone who had seen Him had seen the Father, and telling us to baptize in the ‘singular’ name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit (and other such statements) he gave us the coordinates for the structure of logic.
And its a structure that can be mathematically described in exquisite detail. We just didn’t discover the mathematics to understand him for 1900 years.
I responded once to Terry and once to you. I never responded to myself.
Sorry but yes it is, twice now.
So you know more than the person who formulated the Law of Sufficient Reason? You might want to read up a bit on Leibniz.
No need to continually repeat your point.
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What I’m saying is that we can, did and do speak of those three laws in isolation, and two of them were perceived without the third being perceived.
So this:
is complete bollocks.
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Let’s do a scientific experiment.
Here is the law of non-contradiction stated formally:
p ∧ ¬p
And again philosophically:
Proposition A and its negation \(\neg A\) cannot both be true.
Please notice (because it has gone unnoticed for far too long) that in each case the variables and alternatives are:
- Identified LOI
- Distinguished LNC
- Excluded LEM
-The law of Conservation of Coinherence
No statement or system can be logically valid or function apart from the coinherence of the three fundamental laws of logic.
No it isn’t. It’s actually:
¬ (p ∧ ¬p)
You can’t even get that right.
(Also, this isn’t a scientific experiment).
It was not only a scientific experiment, but a successful experiment. All 3 laws are necessary for the laws of identity, non-contradiction, or excluded middle to spoken of. They are statements whether expressed mathematically or philosophically.
What’s most telling is that you identified, distinguished and excluded my notation error just as I predicted.
Predicted where?
Please… we’ve all seen the memes that intentionally misspell words to demonstrate that the message is still intelligible.
That’s all I was doing here. And the experiment prived that you were stoll able to recognize the law even when the notation was jumbled.
It gets a little tiresome being dismissed as ‘Bullocks’. So given your ego, a little spelling contest was perfectly in order.
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