Your error is assuming that I am saying it is false. There is a difference between not knowing if something is true and claiming that something is false.[quote=“Mervin_Bitikofer, post:80, topic:36189”]
That a belief shares this in common with falsehoods does not mean that the belief in question is untrue.
Just to be clear, I didn’t say that it is untrue.[quote=“Mervin_Bitikofer, post:80, topic:36189”]
You are the one who persists here – could have fooled me.
You say this as you persist in posting.[quote=“Mervin_Bitikofer, post:80, topic:36189”]
You want us to justify our beliefs to you on your narrow scientific terms. We tell you that there are issues here bigger than science or materialism, and we share with you something of our non-scientific justifications. But then you predictably come back with dissatisfaction – your dissatisfaction with our justifications because they are outside where you can go or what you allow yourself to accept.
That is not how I see it. If you stated that you have faith based beliefs that aren’t supported by evidence and are just believed through faith, then I would agree. However, that is not what I am seeing. Rather, there is an attempt to make beliefs look like facts when they aren’t. This is done by claiming that beliefs are knowledge, or that there are no facts so faith based beliefs are equivalent to anything I call a fact. From where I sit, there seems to be dissatisfaction on your part that your beliefs are not facts.
Also, I don’t begrudge your freedom and right to believe whatever you want. Personally, I am not one who embraces faith based beliefs, but that’s just me. I am not one to tell you what you should or shouldn’t believe, and I think that religious beliefs are part and parcel of the human experience for most people.