Ouch. Careful what you say, even if you speak in ignorance. If it turns out God did use evolution, I wouldn’t call Him terrible…Just like He wouldn’t be terrible if He used YEC. God is good, no matter how He decided to create things.
But, animals, plants, stars are of little value to Him, compared to us humans, to whom He made image bearers. Animals die, they are eaten, they are eaten by us, we get nutrients and they self regulate their population. Plants die, nitrogen cycle, gives us oxygen and life. Stars are born and die, black holes and heat ect, it supports our lives/universe. These things like animals, plants and stars are FOR humans. They also declare God’s glory, but they allow humans to exist.
So yes, in that sense, God created death.
As far as the spirit goes, no, that was never intended to die, unless, it rejected God, which is spiritual death. It isn’t a consequence so to speak, it is a result. Being apart from God is death. Because God is life, separation is death. So God created death…just as God created sin, if you chose to look at it like that.
But it had to be created, just like the law had to be created (or was chosen by God to be created, to give more glory to God. In sin and death and the law, it reveals to us God’s holiness and reveals the whole purpose of creation, for the Son of God to show God’s love, so that the Father may be glorified.
Jesus died on the cross to conquer spiritual death, it is not good for a man that wants to be with God to be separate from God. But when man chose to reject God’s ways, and not allow God to work through us to glorify Him, we tried to receive glory, we were separated. Now if we repent and even if we wanted to be in the presence of God, we couldn’t, for we are no longer holy like God, but sinful. After Jesus died for us, now those that want to be with God, can again, thorugh the price paid by Jesus, when He conquered death, conquered us not being able to be with God even though we want to.
People die every second, Christ dien’t die on the cross to abolish physical death.
No, that is heartless. Jesus wept. Now as to why has been debated and preached on many times. But Jesus had compassion and mourned. There is nothing wrong with either. I lost my mom, I mourned. I remember the great times I had with her, and know I will miss future times with her and my kids. But I was not entitled to having her or a mom as good as her. I’m thankful to God who gave her to me for 30 years, and know that God is good and my mom is home with Him.
So while I wouldn’t out right say that to someone who just lost a loved one…If they are a Christian, then yes, death is a good thing, they are with their heavenly Father in many more ways better than they were here with the curse of the flesh holding us back.
Death to an unsaved person is not good, now they will possibly spend eternity apart from God, and not just this life apart from Him. We don’t know what happens after death, maybe God gives a second chance? Maybe when they see Him, they bow and confess to Jesus and are saved? I don’t know these answers.
To summarize, spiritual death is never a good thing, but technically, God “created” it. Physical is very good and a merciful thing for God to allow us to leave these fleshly bodies and be in glorified bodies with Him if you want Him to be your Lord. If not possibly you cease to exist, which is still forever separated from God for eternity if you cease to exist.
That is terrible logic, or lack there of. I could ask you, Did God create sin? then it must be a “good” thing when people sin…
We both know that is not true. You are grasping at straws here.
Or like saying people created buildings to fall. They create buildings to stand strong, but in time and weather, they will corrode and fall. That doesn’t mean the creator intended for this to happen. Perhaps with proper maintenance and upkeep, it would never fall.
That is like our bodies, which are mortal, created mortal, with the proper tree of life of God, it will never die. But due to sin, we can’t be in God’s presence which is near that tree (or is that tree in a metaphor?), so in that sense, sin dooms us to an eventual physical death that we would not have experienced had we never sinned and were able to eat of the fruit that continues our mortal lives. So in that sense, physical and spiritual death in HUMANS was not here until the fall of man (but man was still mortal before the fall).
But animals, plants and stars still are dying and die all the time, it is God’s plan. Name a single verse were God mourns a plant or animal death? In fact, doesn’t Jesus curse a plant to death?
I also think you are confusing immortality and living forever. One can slowly be dying, and be regenerated time and time again and never die. That person would not be immortal, but could live for forever. If a mortal man may or may not have to eat from the fruit of the tree of life daily or annually or maybe once (which would then make them immortal). We need oxygen, if we don’t get it we die, we are mortal. You could argue we are being revived back to life every breath we take. Eventually though our lungs shut down or the heart that pumps that oxygen to the brain stops and we die. God doesn’t need oxygen or anything to sustain His life, He is life. We are not, we are image bearers of Him, and in Him and through Him we are given life, extending our mortal bodies to eternity, but not being immortal, only God is immortal.
Just accept that there was death before the fall, and not all death is a bad thing, especially the very many levels/meanings of death. You have to specify death of an animal, plant, or star, or human, and then with humans, physical or spiritual death.