No, and…
No.
- Relentless interrogation? LOL! And here I am thinking I was just being thorough.
- For inquiring minds:
- Following 05/26/2025, I sent a very political email, critical of our president to a small group of people, most of whom I did not know, but three of whom I did know: my brother, and two former neighbors in the 1960s, both siblings, one a male sympathetic to my views, the other a female (and my first heartthrob), not sympathetic to my views.
- Later, in a text thread involving only my three brothers and myself, one brother wrote: “Most of my family/friends are mum on political views. Since I think both sides are well represented, it’s probably good to avoid discussing sex, religion, and POLITICS. But weather, geography, travel plans, projects, family, health, etc., etc. are good fill in’s?”
- I responded:
- At that point, I collected some Youtube videos on the subject of “What is justice” and shared them with my brothers. And I asked them: "Is the topic of justice political or not?
- If it is, I shouldn’t discuss it with my brothers? If it is, I can?
- All that is the lengthy backstory to this thread. For the record, none of my brothers volunteered an answer either.
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I am a member, I believe in good standing, of this larger discussion group, and believe I have the privilege of commenting on anything whatsoever that people are discussing, unless a moderator tells me otherwise. That’s why it is a public discussion board, no?
Please show me the exact words that somehow you interpreted to be a rant about those who are turning away from YEC being a step toward atheism?
The only words I recall were:
Last I checked, Biologos, and evolutionary creationists that align themselves with Biologos do, indeed, perceive the creation of the world as a special purposed creation of God, even if God did it through what we would call strictly natural means. The Biologos website confidently affirms:
At BioLogos, we believe that our intelligent God designed the universe, but we do not see scientific or biblical reasons to give up on pursuing natural explanations for how God governs natural phenomena.
I was recognizing that ANY (and by “any”, I actually meant “any”) World-view that recognizes God as creator and man as his unique image bearer should indeed have a natural inclination for justice.
I was contrasting that view, held by essentially all Christians ( regardless of their view of origins), With an atheistic view Which would not be able to have any real basis for justice.
I was basically simply observing that YEC is not categorically different than any other Christian view that recognizes the creation, And humanity, as special creations of God, in terms of its having a natural proclivity to recognize the importance of treating humans as worthy of justice and honor.
And again, given that this is a public discussion board, unless a moderator tells me otherwise, I reserve the right to comment on public discussions on matters that I feel I have some thought to contribute. Moderators, please correct me if I misunderstand?
Oh, and one last observation…
you keep using that word… I do not think it means what you think it means…
I had simply posted four paragraphs to offer my thoughts… You posted 20-something paragraphs over three posts to respond to me… And you are seriously suggesting I am the one that launched into a “rant”??
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Oh, so it’s God’s fault for making us vulnerable to sin!
Human vanoty knows no bounds.
It has to be about us!
No, it isn’t.
Sin was inevitable once the ability to choose is given. God knew this. he expected it. he allowed for it. And still you think we could have changed it!
Sin is not God’s problem. He forgives it!
Sin is out probem vecause we see it as a fault and a problem and something that separates us from God. It doesn’t God forgives it!
It’s nothing to do with you!
WHy are you dictating to God who He can save! It is nothing to do with us.
Why are you judging humanity? it is nothing to do with us!
Let God do His thing! It is nothiing to do with you!
Reakky? WHo says so? Paul? or God!
Where does God define who can be saved? Where does God clai that Hitler is doomed? Where does God decalire that we must accept His forgiveness?
Where?
Human Justice?
God declares that His ways are not ours, and that includes human Justice!
Then there is no forgiveness!. You cannot fogive, not God, YOU!
Richard
Whether it is or not is irrelevant; what is relevant is that He took responsibility for it anyway.
The prophet Isaiah disagrees; he flat-out says that sin separates us from God.
But God tore down that wall.
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Yes, He forgives it.
Simple don’t you think?
perhaps too simple for us vain humans.We have to be part of the solution!
Richard
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These discussions become easier when what is meant is that we want “justice for our enemies, and mercy for our friends”.
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- So, @marta, let me ask you:
- In your opinion, does Christianity contribute to world justice? IMO, it should, and has and does, except for bungled attempts and outright failures.
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Yes
Erm…only that is not justice, sounds more like cronyism to me.
I think that’s a prime example of an outright failure of Christians to implement justice. But behaviour of certain Christians doesn’t necessarily reflect on Christianity as a concept, I think the two should be separated, even if not 100 % of time.
This almost made me cry so it would have been weird to say which parts I liked.
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- Fair enough. Maybe that’s why nobody answers the question, other than you, when I ask it?
- Excellent!
- Second question: Do you think that Young Earth Creationists probably believe that Young Earth Creationistm contributes to Christianity or does not contribute to Christianity?
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Lol 
you do realise I’m probably the last person here that you should be asking anything about YEC? Not only I’ve never been one, I have never even (knowingly) met one IRL…but in an attempt to answer your question anyway, yes I think they probably believe that they contribute to Christianity. Why? Because most people want to think that their beliefs somehow have a positive effect and I can’t see why YEC should be any different
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- Thanks. I’m not a YEC either, but I’m inclined to agree with you. The YECs aren’t speaking up here, now.
- "So, if–as you and I are inclined to believe–YECs seem to believe that Young Earth Creationism “contributes to Christianity” which “contributes to world justice”, then my question in the O.P., to wit: “How does Young Earth Creationism contribute to world justice?”, which asks if Young Earth Creationism contributes to Christianity and if Christianity contributes to world justice, doesn’t sound like something that any YEC you or I can imagine would deny, does it? It certainly doesn’t to me.
- I know, … that was a really long sentence.
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- Zong massacre [ Zong was originally named Zorg (meaning “Care” in Dutch) by its owners]
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LOL
My memory jumped to the movie The Fifth Element, where Zorg is the opposite of caring.
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- Same story as in “The Zorg”, under a different title: 29th November 1781: The Zong Massacre sees 132 Africans thrown overboard by the crew of a slave ship
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