Sorry, that is what happens when a simpleton tries to explain something that came from a more brillaint mind.
C.S Lewis “It is good that the window should be transparent, because the street or garden beyond it is opaque. How if you saw through the garden too? It is no use trying to ‘see through’ [everything]. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To ‘see through’ all things is the same as not to see.”
Have you read it cover to cover before? I don’t know if theme is the right word. Even if reading it as a fictional book, and trying to summarize what is most important, you would know that the God of this book doesn’t condone people being immoral in the name of God, or worrying about the ends (which leads to us dong bad things), but rather the means.
Though again, slaughtering the Amalekites children and animal isn’t immoral, WHEN you are told to do it by God. Like I said above, not a (God told me to do this) individual, but a collective group that heard the literal audio of God. This doesn’t happen anymore, there is no need to happen. Back then, it was needed.
That’s just it, things can’t change, that is what makes it an absolute.
Outside of that, morals are subjective, and can change. I assume you would argue in a good way, like slavery used to be good/acceptable, now it is bad. But it has greatly gone in the wrong direction too. It used to be immoral to talk back to a teacher or the elderly, now it is common place. The very fact that it can change is terrible. Some things might not be in a bad place now, but that doesn’t mean it won’t be. Porn used to be maybe 18 year olds and few and far between. Now every 11 year old can see that stuff. It isn’t good for us to behave so animalistic and violent. You used to see people maybe stick up for someone getting beat up, now you see people laughing and filming it. People used to be some what cordial and accepting of others beliefs, now we are so closed minded and angry. It’s not immoral though, it is the norm.
But all a law does is (if the punishment is great enough and outweighs the crime) makes a slight deterrent, but mostly causes people to just try and not get caught. Laws just make people behave more crafty, not moral. Morals come from within, the integrity one attempts to have. Though we all fail at maintaining our integrity 100% of the time. But God was able to show 100% integrity, and we can also be that with Him in us.
It was Hitlers words of doing the world a favor and ridding the Jews. He was a moral person in his mind, he was helping out the world. You have to break some eggs to make omelets mentality. We can, and do find ways to justify our actions to our subjective morals. But something written, you can’t really justify. You can still violate your conscience, but you can’t justify it, it is written. All immorality comes from us trying to control something.
If we think we can’t pass a test but we want to control the passing grade, we cheat. We are annoyed at a person who keeps taking the promotions, we lie, to get him fired. We want something we can’t afford, we steal it. If you have faith in God and His control, none of those happen. Though Christians do things, when they do, it is because they aren’t trusting in God.
Even if you don’t believe in a God, but believed in fate, this would be true. Think of every immoral thing done, it is to reach the ends of something. But if you lived just in the means, you would do no wrong. The problem is, we can’t trust God or fate, it is in us to want to be God, to control the ends of everything. The problem with fate is, it doesn’t love you nor care about you.
I don’t think you reject all responsibility. But if morals can be moved a tad, like evolution, over a long time, great changes can happen. Few things in this world are instant, many things are gradual. It’s a slow fade to destruction. Going from eating a super fatty unhealthy fatty diet to a vegetarian can last a week or so, but that entire time, you are wishing you had some meat, living a life of denial. But if you cut it out one meal per day, than one day per week, and so on, next year, you are no longer living in denial, you are now a vegetarian.
Subjective morals move, perhaps slowly, but they move. If people lived forever, who knows how disgusting their morals would get.
Just like you are reading or applying my entire post, you need to read and apply the entire Bible.
They weren’t angry at their neighbor. Jesus says if you are angry at your neighbor, that is just as bad as murder. They were simply following commands, somewhat like the military. I understand the military has ROE and you can’t kill civilians…But the military didn’t create the civilians either. It would be like a general telling a soldier to blow up their own (unoccupied) tanks. It is a lawful order, they would do it, and not be at fault for doing it, when a different general got upset about it. Everything God says (again, not he psycho who hears voices) is a lawful order
But also in verse 2, it says "I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel. God is the one doing the punishment, the Israelite’s are the tool. God is the person, the Israelite’s are the gun. For all we know, this is eye for eye, tooth for tooth.
Regardless of the reasons and the rights, the meaning of this passage is that God will protect His people, and vengeance is His. If the Israelite’s wanted to kill them due to anger, that would have been a sin, and they would have got slaughtered. Like the Israelite’s in Jericho the first time, when they went on their own, not God’s command.
No, the rule is, God makes the rules. And the rule is love you neighbor always. But the rule is also, obey God, and if He wants to use you as a tool, allow Him to use you.
Where is it not universal? Name one place in the Bible that there was bloodshed from the anger of man that isn’t shown to be wrong?
There are no exceptions, we are to always love our neighbors. Wars happen, we live in a sinful world., wars suck, that is not the intent, it is a product of humans, not God. There are times when your neighbor wants war, in this case, you are using self defense.
After saying love thy neighbor, He said the good Samaritan parable. So when you pass a man, who is not your kindred, and he is hurting, help him out, don’t ignore him, have compassion on him. Don’t lie to make yourself look good and put someone else down, don’t look down at someone. It basically means interact kindly with people, have compassion for them. It is about the heart, not the actions.
Like American Sniper. He killed plenty of people, and in one seen you see him say “com’on, put that down” He didn’t want to kill them. His heart was in the right place. He killed to save others, not in anger. It doesn’t say, that shalt not kill, it says, shall not murder. It is getting at the angry heart, not the action.
The other key ‘theme’ in the Bible is that is was always about the heart, not the law. Loving your neighbor by mowing his lawn for him to check some box of “being nice” or making you feel good is worthless in God’s eyes.
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