Biologos with Wendell Berry

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This article from the main page gives my favorite passage from what is one of my favorite books. Worth a read.

https://biologos.org/post/an-afternoon-with-wendell-berry

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Good article. Thanks for the heads up. BTW, it’s Wendell.

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Thank you “Berry” much!

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The most recent flagship podcast from HolyPost has a great discussion of Dolly Parton, Gloria Steinem and Wendell Berry - and how those three were very similar in some significant ways.

-Merv

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Thanks Collin for the artical and Phil for starting this thread. I spend time on three different forums and have participated on thread dedicated to Berry on all of them. Some lives even if you weren’t family or friends, you just are sorry to say goodbye too soon.

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Great discussion so far through Dolly and Gloria which by the way begins at around the 27 minute mark. But my goodness so many commercials. Still the discussion was very good, especially about. Steinem who I knew less about. Now to go hear more about Wendell for dessert.

Edited to say their take on Berry added some needed realism about how his idealized agrarian world was made possible in part by his rich lawyer father and the fine education that afforded. It is a lovely vision but the reality wasn’t the same for all.

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I thought it a very fair discussion too. BTW - I hear you on the commercials. If they are youtube commercials, you’re stuck with them until the ‘skip’ button activates. But if they are HolyPost endorsements (where one of the podcasters is promoting a product - and there are plenty of those too), I think you can just move the slider ahead and skip past those.

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I really appreciated Kaitlyn’s comment that she had a lot more respect for people like Berry who actually lived what he preached - yes, he did have income apart from his farm - but he was still a farmer and lived all the life that such a thing entailed; she has a lot more respect for that than what she saw as so many Berry fans who themselves enthuse over his values and promote them, but do not at all live it themselves. Real farm work involves so much of life that most of us would not have the patience or endurance for. There is so much (good / bad / boring / challenging) about the agrarian life that most of us urbanized people just would not be willing or able to endure any more.

Could his practices be economically sustainable without outside subsidy or help is yet a whole 'nother level of critique. But whatever he may have suffered of that criticism, surely all the rest of us would suffer much, much more. How much independence do any of us really have? Should we have?

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Thanks but I did finally realize that, thank goodness.

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